D.Sedin - H.Sedin - Markus Naslund, Could it work? Would it work? Options

[Guest_G.M._*]

D.Sedin - H.Sedin - Markus Naslund. Could it work? Would it work?


Although the Sedins' and Naslund don't exactly have compatible styles, here are some reasons why I wouldn't mind them trying it out.


A) It's something different. It's a new look, and hasn't really been done before. At a time when you're struggling, why not experiment?

Henrik Sedin is arguably the team's best center right now. Henrik and Daniel Sedin have taken their game to the next level this season. Would being on the 1st line with Markus Naslund (superstar) further help the Sedin's in crossing the threshold of superstardom?!? Remember - Naslund started developing into a superstar when he was the Sedin's age. Naslund also arguably made the proverbial "jump" to superstardom by playing on the 1st line alongside Mark Messier (a former superstar). Surely - playing alongside a past or present superstar must have its advantages......if anything, for the learning experience. Could Naslund mold the Sedins'?

C) The Sedins' are arguably the best passers on the team, while Naslund is by far the best finisher.

D) If Naslund's on-ice presence helps Henrik Sedin take "the next step", the Canucks would finally have a true #1 center.


E) Bertuzzi gets seperated from Naslund.....perhaps forcing Bertuzzi to be more accountable and play with more consistency night-in night-out. Has anyone else noticed that Morrison has played significantly better with Cooke and Park? Perhaps Bertuzzi, with less skilled linemates, may do the same?


Suggested lines:

D. Sedin - H.Sedin - Naslund.

Ruutu - Bertuzzi - Carter

Cooke - Morrison - Park

*******4th line*******



Under these lines, you have Morrison and Bertuzzi playing away from Naslund (and each other). This forces them to elevate their play. The Morrison line can be the "speed" line for the Canucks, while that 2nd line can go out there are physically dominate.

Maybe even have Cooke move up to the Bertuzzi line, and Carter go down to the Morrison line.

[Shazzam]

Carter's a good choice for the Sedins coz he parks his ass in front of the net and trys to chip in their passes from the cycle.

Nassie has a good wrister for the job but physically isn't suited to be the guy getting punished in front/to the side of the net.

I'd be more inclined for Bert to have more time with the Sedins.

[Skyo]

so what would you do?^

something simple like

Sedins Bert (simplify his game and park his ass in front of the net!)

Nazzy Bmo Carter (Bmo's playing better without the 1st line pressure)

although yeah I dont want to disrupt the brother line chemistry, its to jumpstart bert and bmo.

This post has been edited by Skyo: Jan 5 2006, 02:05 PM

[Guest_G.M._*]

Carter's a good choice for the Sedins coz he parks his ass in front of the net and trys to chip in their passes from the cycle.

Nassie has a good wrister for the job but physically isn't suited to be the guy getting punished in front/to the side of the net.

I'd be more inclined for Bert to have more time with the Sedins.

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Yeah. That's basically the main reason why we've never seen Naslund play with the Sedins'.

I guess my line of thinking, was that Naslund's high skill level would compensate for his lack of physical presence.

Having said that, Naslund isn't exactly a pushover. Both Sedin twins are bigger and more physical than they used to be as well.




Sedin-Sedin-Bertuzzi would be good as well. Naslund-Morrison-Carter becomes line #1.

[Guest_G.M._*]

so what would you do?^

something simple like

Sedins Bert (simplify his game and park his ass in front of the net!)

Nazzy Bmo Carter (Bmo's playing better without the 1st line pressure)

You raise an interesting point. If the Sedin's played with Bertuzzi, while Carter moved to the Naslund/Morrison line, which line would be the #1?

I always assumed that the Naslund line (or whatever line that Naslund's on) would be #1 since he's the team's best player.

[ODC]

Been done before and it doesn't work.

Naslund isn't the best cycler and always feels comfortable setting up on the half boards, right in the way of the Sedin cycle. Also being two LW'ers and three L handed shots, isn't very promising.

I want to put Naslund and Jovo on the points for the PP. He hardly takes a wristshot from the far out anymore and he used to be golden on those chances. Besides, Naslund on his usual halfboard scheme is so overplayed.

[Guest_Steamer_*]

D.Sedin - H.Sedin - Markus Naslund.  Could it work?  Would it work?
Although the Sedins' and Naslund don't exactly have compatible styles, here are some reasons why I wouldn't mind them trying it out.
A) It's something different.  It's a new look, and hasn't really been done before.  At a time when you're struggling, why not experiment?   

Henrik Sedin is arguably the team's best center right now.  Henrik and Daniel Sedin have taken their game to the next level this season.  Would being on the 1st line with Markus Naslund (superstar) further help the Sedin's in crossing the threshold of superstardom?!?  Remember - Naslund started developing into a superstar when he was the Sedin's age.  Naslund also arguably made the proverbial "jump" to superstardom by playing on the 1st line alongside Mark Messier (a former superstar).  Surely - playing alongside a past or present superstar must have its advantages......if anything, for the learning experience.    Could Naslund mold the Sedins'? 

C) The Sedins' are arguably the best passers on the team, while Naslund is by far the best finisher. 

D) If Naslund's on-ice presence helps Henrik Sedin take "the next step", the Canucks would finally have a true #1 center. 
E) Bertuzzi gets seperated from Naslund.....perhaps forcing Bertuzzi to be more accountable and play with more consistency night-in night-out.  Has anyone else noticed that Morrison has played significantly better with Cooke and Park?  Perhaps Bertuzzi, with less skilled linemates, may do the same? 
Suggested lines:

D. Sedin - H.Sedin - Naslund.   

Ruutu - Bertuzzi - Carter

Cooke - Morrison - Park

*******4th line*******
Under these lines, you have Morrison and Bertuzzi playing away from Naslund (and each other).  This forces them to elevate their play.  The Morrison line can be the "speed" line for the Canucks, while that 2nd line can go out there are physically dominate.   

Maybe even have Cooke move up to the Bertuzzi line, and Carter go down to the Morrison line.

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GM, This is a great suggestion, the Twins with Naslund would be a great experiment and I can't understand why we haven't seen it yet. It will be interesting to see if team Sweden tries it for the Games or at least in their mini-camp.

With this move I would bring Kessler up to the second line to play with Bert and Carter.

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Naslund
Bertuzzi - Kessler - Carter
Cooke - Morrison - Park
Ruutu - Linden - xxxxx

Kessler will be a major part of the Canucks future and it will benefit him to get more playing time at that level.

[Guest_G.M._*]

Been done before and it doesn't work.

Naslund isn't the best cycler and always feels comfortable setting up on the half boards, right in the way of the Sedin cycle.  Also being two LW'ers and three L handed shots, isn't very promising.

I want to put Naslund and Jovo on the points for the PP.  He hardly takes a wristshot from the far out anymore and he used to be golden on those chances.  Besides, Naslund on his usual halfboard scheme is so overplayed.

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You make a good point in regards to all 3 being left-handed shots. As far as the "been there done that" comment, I think of it like this.

1) It's a NHL new. Less clutching, more open ice, etc.

2) The Sedin's are bigger and better than they used to be.


Sedin/Sedin/Naslund may not work, but I think it deserves a chance. Naslund also has experience playing RW if I'm not mistaken.

[T-BONE]

Dont mess with a good thing. I think the Brotha line has been the best and most consistent line all year. Dont mess with that. With that being said, I really have no idea how to get Nazzy, Bert, Mo, Jovo, Ohlund, Allen, Auld, and anybody else that I missed back on their games. Come on, Linden. Nazzy wont lead. Its time for Linden to step up and take this team to the promised land.....please.

[Guest_G.M._*]

GM, This is a great suggestion, the Twins with Naslund would be a great experiment and I can't understand why we haven't seen it yet.  It will be interesting to see if team Sweden tries it for the Games or at least in their mini-camp.

With this move I would bring Kessler up to the second line to play with Bert and Carter.

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Naslund
Bertuzzi - Kessler - Carter
Cooke - Morrison - Park
Ruutu - Linden - xxxxx

Kessler will be a major part of the Canucks future and it will benefit him to get more playing time at that level.

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Thanks Steamer. p.s. - I'm glad you stuck around.

I don't think Kesler is good enough to play 2nd line center as of yet........but his pairing with Bertuzzi does sound interesting to me.

It's been well documented that Bertuzzi has taken Kesler under his wing. As linemates, maybe the two will bring out the best in one another.

As Kesler's "mentor", Bertuzzi may play with more consistency. The two may bring out the best in one another.

[Guest_Steamer_*]

Thanks Steamer.  p.s. - I'm glad you stuck around. 

I don't think Kesler is good enough to play 2nd line center as of yet........but his pairing with Bertuzzi does sound interesting to me.

It's been well documented that Bertuzzi has taken Kesler under his wing.    As linemates, maybe the two will bring out the best in one another. 

As Kesler's "mentor", Bertuzzi may play with more consistency.  The two may bring out the best in one another.

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I agree about the current talent level of Kesler as a #2 centre, but I chalk it up to the education process. I really like what Philadelphia has done this year with Carter, Richards and Umberger. I think with the exeption of Umberger on the top line, they've all seen action on all four lines. As of this morning it looks like Jeff Carter will play on the top line again. Their shuffling has had a lot to do with injuries, but the youth on that team is benefiting as a result.

[ODC]

You make a good point in regards to all 3 being left-handed shots.  As far as the "been there done that" comment, I think of it like this.

1) It's a NHL new.  Less clutching, more open ice, etc.

2) The Sedin's are bigger and better than they used to be. 
Sedin/Sedin/Naslund may not work, but I think it deserves a chance.  Naslund also has experience playing RW if I'm not mistaken.

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Guess it can't hurt the way we're going anyway.

Crow will eventually throw them out with his random line changes when things aren't going right.

This post has been edited by ODC: Jan 5 2006, 03:12 PM

[nucksin7]

im bored so here are my lines....

#1. Cooke Morrison Carter
#2. Daniel Henrik Bertuzzi
#3. Park Linden Naslund
#4. Ruutu Kesler ______ whoever is up... preferably Bouck.

Defence just triple shift Ohlund and hope the rest can pick up the slack.

[Guest_[B]ertuzzi_*]

Normally I'de think breaking up Bert and Nasland would be a really bad idea. but seeing as weve lost 9 out of the last 10 i think it definally time to try soemthing new. nucksin7?? why the hell would u stick nasland on line 3, might work if u switch carter and nasland. anyhow these are my lines:

1. D Sedin H Sedin Nasland
2. Cooke Bertuzzi Carter
3. Kessler Morrison Park

[AKA Nuckertuzzi]

Naslund and the twins may not work 5 on 5 but should be tried as the top PP unit. The biggest problem with the WCE is Bert and Mo are terrible puck possession players..they often lose it easily and that's why they spend most of their minute and half just trying to gain the zone. Morrison's the other team's best penalty killer. Once the Sedins are in they're usually in there for the whole duration because both of them excel at guarding the puck. Naslund's good as well and he's got the great wrister. The only problem I see with it is both he and Daniel like to occupy the right side with their left shots...I wonder how well one or the other would do on the left. If they don't score at worst they should have the puck in the offensive zone the majority of the time and I want to see that.