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 Jun 27 2006, 12:54 AM
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What do you do with the undisputed greatest Canuck ever? Apparently, according to NHLPA Canucks you have him signed for 1.52mil. Which is weird, because this site is usually very accurate? Linden is group III as far as I have seen. Is he going to be in better shape next year? Can he still contribute? Is it time for him to leave Vancouver? (No, no it is not, in case you had any doubts) Time for a desk job? coaching job? upper management? I hope Linden stays around the team for a long time to come. He is class. But was it just an off year? He wasn't that bad... he could be a good signing for aorund league minimum. But then should you give younger players a shot?
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Jun 27 2006, 03:50 AM
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QUOTE(paddy @ Jun 27 2006, 07:10 AM) And with all due respect to Pavel Bure, who by the way held the team hostage with his hold out, Trevor Linden outshined him in the biggest game this organization ever played. In game 7 against the Rangers it was Linden, not Bure, who scored both Canuck goals. Now 1.52 million is too much for Linden, but something will be worked out where he signs for alot less.
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Jun 27 2006, 04:18 AM
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QUOTE(New York @ Jun 27 2006, 07:50 AM) And with all due respect to Pavel Bure, who by the way held the team hostage with his hold out, Trevor Linden outshined him in the biggest game this organization ever played. In game 7 against the Rangers it was Linden, not Bure, who scored both Canuck goals. Now 1.52 million is too much for Linden, but something will be worked out where he signs for alot less. [snapback]63806[/snapback] Well put, my Downstate friend. 
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 Jun 27 2006, 05:21 AM
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QUOTE(New York @ Jun 27 2006, 04:50 AM) And with all due respect to Pavel Bure, who by the way held the team hostage with his hold out, Trevor Linden outshined him in the biggest game this organization ever played. In game 7 against the Rangers it was Linden, not Bure, who scored both Canuck goals. Now 1.52 million is too much for Linden, but something will be worked out where he signs for alot less. [snapback]63806[/snapback] All you need to know about the Canucks franchise and their place in history quite simply is this Stan Smyl,Trevor Linden and Harold Snepts the 3 most popular Canucks of alltime... I can see why we have had so much success As far as Trevor is concerned and whetherI want him back the answer is NO... One of the reasons a quote from Kuzma's article in the paper... In Florida, he was willing to stay and he was willing to go cheaper," Lupien said Monday. "In Vancouver, it will be more and it's not about asking for more.
"It's about the value. But we're not coming there to grab the money and leave next year. We want to build with the guys."
With Chicago's Nikolai Khabibulin getting $6.75 million next season, Dallas's Marty Turco $6 million and Washington's Olaf Kolzig $5.45 million, you know which comparable Lupien will cite.
If Luongo gets Khabibulin money, Nonis will have seven players under contract for $25 million with an option on Trevor Linden at $1.52 million.Do you want to pick up Trevor Linden's option at 1.52???  Lets pay the best player in the history of the franchise 1.52 to be a 4th line center who can't win draws, can't score goals,can't shut down the oppositons best players, isn't a great pk guy or a physical guy but IMO nobody in the history of Vancouver Canuck hockey has gotten more play out of being a nice guy than him... There is no other explanation well maybe other than the fact that Canuck fans love Mediocrity and live for the Mediocre Player JOSH HOLDEN ANYONE... Cause it sure as shit has nothing to do with his on ice play for this love affair with the city and this player... Surely it cannot be for his great leadership qualities Trevor Linden ceased being a LEADER when he bent over and grabbed his ankles the day Messier showed up and gave up the Captains C... 1 80 pt season and he needed 82 to get that never scored more than 33 goals in any one season at the end of the day Trevor Linden ON HIS BEST DAY was nothing MORE THAN A POOR MANS KIRK MULLER... http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/spo...827614d&k=38200
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Jun 27 2006, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE(paddy @ Jun 27 2006, 06:21 AM) All you need to know about the Canucks franchise and their place in history quite simply is this Stan Smyl,Trevor Linden and Harold Snepts the 3 most popular Canucks of alltime... I can see why we have had so much success As far as Trevor is concerned and whetherI want him back the answer is NO... One of the reasons a quote from Kuzma's article in the paper... In Florida, he was willing to stay and he was willing to go cheaper," Lupien said Monday. "In Vancouver, it will be more and it's not about asking for more.
"It's about the value. But we're not coming there to grab the money and leave next year. We want to build with the guys."
With Chicago's Nikolai Khabibulin getting $6.75 million next season, Dallas's Marty Turco $6 million and Washington's Olaf Kolzig $5.45 million, you know which comparable Lupien will cite.
If Luongo gets Khabibulin money, Nonis will have seven players under contract for $25 million with an option on Trevor Linden at $1.52 million.Do you want to pick up Trevor Linden's option at 1.52??? Lets pay the best player in the history of the franchise 1.52 to be a 4th line center who can't win draws, can't score goals,can't shut down the oppositons best players, isn't a great pk guy or a physical guy but IMO nobody in the history of Vancouver Canuck hockey has gotten more play out of being a nice guy than him... There is no other explanation well maybe other than the fact that Canuck fans love Mediocrity and live for the Mediocre Player JOSH HOLDEN ANYONE... Cause it sure as shit has nothing to do with his on ice play for this love affair with the city and this player... Surely it cannot be for his great leadership qualities Trevor Linden ceased being a LEADER when he bent over and grabbed his ankles the day Messier showed up and gave up the Captains C... 1 80 pt season and he needed 82 to get that never scored more than 33 goals in any one season at the end of the day Trevor Linden ON HIS BEST DAY was nothing MORE THAN A POOR MANS KIRK MULLER... http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/spo...827614d&k=38200[snapback]63818[/snapback] When Nonis doesn't pick up Linden's option, he'll become a UFA. The market for Linden isn't exactly hot, so I THINK if he wants to continue playing in the NHL, he'll re-sign for a lot less than the option ... if your Canucks want him back that is.
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Jun 27 2006, 07:09 AM
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Well said Paddy, sad to see that Linden lovers are still going back to 94 to make a case for the guy. No other team in the league wanted Linden last year let alone this year and I don't think the Canucks need to pay a penny for a guy that nobody else wants. Offer him a desk job but get him off the ice and out of the room, it is time for a clean start and to have a guy around who is at least 7 years removed from contributing in a meaningful will only ensure that we wil have another bad year. Hopefully he will do the right thing and retire, he was awful last year, lucky for him the media love him and spared him his justifiable criticism. Time to move on!
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Jun 27 2006, 07:29 AM
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Some Canuck Highligts featuring number 16 as well ( Had to search long and hard for those) afterall Youtube doesn't have video of what Trevor did best during his career which was getting Crack Whores and Male Prostitutes of the streets of East Van and putting them up in his private box there is also some present day stuff with Markus,Todd and the Twins but its mostly PASCHA the WAY it should be... In the words of Bret the Hitman Hart The best there is the best there was and the best there ever will be... PS check out the insane assist on the Greg Adams Goal and the New Jersey Goal Vintage Pascha... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_lByxlMnzs...ch=pavel%20bure
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Jun 27 2006, 07:41 AM
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I dont think i can withstand another Linden trade.
I am a huge linden fan, but i honestly think he should hang em up, before people remember what his career was like now (Sloppy, old, wont give it up) rather than before (A canuck legend)
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Jun 27 2006, 08:25 AM
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Either sign him to minimum or promote him to Management Staff 
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Jun 27 2006, 08:32 AM
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give him a desk job and be done with it.
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Jun 27 2006, 09:01 AM
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Linden has publicly said he wants to play at least one more year. He will not play anywhere other than Vancouver. So, I expect Nonis and he will wait until Nonis has the majority of the team locked up, whoever they may be. If the team looks promising to Trevor and if there is money left over he will sign for under 1 million.
Or he will sign the league minimum right away. If he doesn't liek the feel of the team or if the team has no money then Trevor will not be back but will stay in some capacity within the organization. But I think both he and Nonis will somehow try to get him in the linup for one last kick at Lord Stanely.
Trevor is still useful on the PK and as a 3rd/4th line shut down guy. His faceoffs percentage was not great last season and that is a problem but vetern leadership is still important but only if the money is there in this lovely cap world of ours.
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Jun 27 2006, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(Hockey Widow @ Jun 27 2006, 10:01 AM) Linden has publicly said he wants to play at least one more year. He will not play anywhere other than Vancouver. So, I expect Nonis and he will wait until Nonis has the majority of the team locked up, whoever they may be. If the team looks promising to Trevor and if there is money left over he will sign for under 1 million. Or he will sign the league minimum right away. If he doesn't liek the feel of the team or if the team has no money then Trevor will not be back but will stay in some capacity within the organization. But I think both he and Nonis will somehow try to get him in the linup for one last kick at Lord Stanely. Trevor is still useful on the PK and as a 3rd/4th line shut down guy. His faceoffs percentage was not great last season and that is a problem but vetern leadership is still important but only if the money is there in this lovely cap world of ours. [snapback]63859[/snapback] I hope not. I think Trevor is great, but its time for him to hangem up. He would be more help to the team not playing. I don`t think he has anything left and its time to give a younger player a place. Sorry Trevor, you have done alot for us and we love you for it. But do everyone a favour {mostly yourself} and hangem up.
This post has been edited by naslund MVP: Jun 27 2006, 09:10 AM
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Jun 27 2006, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(New York @ Jun 27 2006, 03:50 AM) And with all due respect to Pavel Bure, who by the way held the team hostage with his hold out, Trevor Linden outshined him in the biggest game this organization ever played. In game 7 against the Rangers it was Linden, not Bure, who scored both Canuck goals. Now 1.52 million is too much for Linden, but something will be worked out where he signs for alot less. [snapback]63806[/snapback] After years of reflection, I can't blame bure for holding out, considering he gave the Canucks about a 4 year window in which he asked numerous times to be traded. Pat Quinn was too busy eating hamburgers, drinking cheap red wine and smoking cohibas to listen to him. That whole mess was more Quinn's fault than Pavel's. As for #16, i hope he doesn't return, but if he does the Pillsbury Dough boy had better not be scratching him a cheque for one fucking penny more than the minimum.
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Jun 27 2006, 09:16 AM
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Comparing Bure's career with the Canucks to Linden's is like comparing Pam Anderson (Bure) to your wife (Linden).
Your wife is there through thick and thin, bore your children, is your best friend and the most meaningful person in your life.
Pam Anderson has big tits and more baggage than a Samsonite factory.
Who would you rather spend 20 years with?
As to the question, its a no brainer that you don't qualify Linden at $1.5M. I doubt even Linden thinks he's worth that. However he will sign for less than $700K I'm sure, and will still be a solid player on your PK and bottom 6. There's no one in the organization now that is worth bumping Linden off the team for.
Plus I'm sure he'll come back better this year than last. There's a big difference between spending the offseason in board rooms with lawyers compared to spending it relaxing and training. I think we'll see a Linden with a bit more jump in his step and a lot more endurance.
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